Why in the World?!

Hey guys, I've kind of been out of it. So sorry. I'll make what I have to say short. Today I was reading Matthew 4, when Jesus calls Peter and Andrew to "follow him" and he would make them "fishers of men." Now, if someone I didn't know, came along and told me to follow him and he would make me a fisher of men, I'd think he had lost it!! or maybe I had lost it.... WHy in the WORLD would I follow him?! Then he calls to James and John, and they follow! I have a question for EVERYONE and I would like you to comment and tell me what you think because then I get a couple different views on it. Tell me why you think they would follow?!


For His Son's Glory,

-Kole

18 comments:

Anonymous April 10, 2008 at 1:00 PM  

John 10:27 says, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me ...". I believe this is speaking directly to the regeneration issue, but could apply to your comments also. What do you think?

Elizabeth April 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM  

I just read that and talked to my dad about it. He said that Jesus had most likly already met Peter and Andrew and they had acknoledged Him as Messiah. So when He says "follow Me" they "immidiatly" get up and follow the long awaited Messiah.

Kade April 11, 2008 at 1:25 PM  

E.go. , what about James and John? Do you think they knew him too? Or what about Matthew (Matthew 9:9)? I must say that the only thing I could think of why they would follow him was the Holy Spirit moving them to follow. I like the imput, guys. It helps me think of the possibilities.

-Kole

Kade April 11, 2008 at 3:44 PM  

I agree with you Kole. I think it was God's will for it to happen, so he made it happen.

-Nick

N. L. White April 12, 2008 at 7:28 AM  

To anonymous' comment:
Judas must have had a different reason to follow.

That raises another question: Could the disciples have been regenerate before the crucifixion?

I think Peter knowing Jesus before the call very likely and James and John were also fishermen, Correct?
Perhaps Peter, as also shown in his years following Jesus, was quick to share his views on His being the Messiah.

Not to rule out or take credit away from the Mighty hand of God. We know that He is not absent from the smallest things and it is makes sense that the first people to activly follow the Messiah would be important to His choosing.

N. L. White April 12, 2008 at 7:31 AM  

God works in mysterious and not-so-mysterious ways.

We can't put Him in a box on this question either.

Anonymous April 12, 2008 at 7:46 AM  

To n.l. White's comment: I didn't say that the disciples were being regenerated at that point. I know that John 10 is not speaking to there being "called", but if he said follow me then as a sovereign God they would.

Anonymous April 12, 2008 at 7:47 AM  

Excuse me: "Their being called ... not there being called"

N. L. White April 12, 2008 at 8:05 AM  

Yeah!
Following the sovereign God...Yes! But following of Jesus as their Shepherd...Judas (at least) did not. I'm just saying that they must have had other reasons in mind to justify the following.

The question of their being regenerate was just a question I thought of related to your comment, not directed to it? I placed the space to separate the ideas. Sorry for the confusion.

Elizabeth April 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM  

Peter and Andrew were followers of John the Babtist. They left John to follow Jesus for a short time before returning to Capernaum. Then soon after that Christ call them into "long-term" discipleship.

James and John's mother may have been the sister of Jesus mother, Mary, therfore they would be cousins.

As for Matthew a tax collecter, Im sure he would have heard about the "Messiah" and so when He came and called him, he left his shamful life that he had led before. Shameful because he helped the romans collect the taxes (hence the name tax collector) which was a sign of betrayal to the Jews. To them Matthew was a sinner and he may have wanted to get out of his "sinful" life.

Hope that made since...lol

TTYL!

Kade April 15, 2008 at 2:52 PM  

If you read the passage with Matthew being called, it makes it sound like they had never met,or that Matthew even knew he was the Messiah.

-Kole

Kade April 15, 2008 at 3:15 PM  

Maybe it was Jesus' Divine Power that called them?...
~Kade

Elizabeth April 15, 2008 at 3:23 PM  

Ok so like apparently you dont like the answers I gave but I do like yours kade...and I still think that Matthew would have at least heard that Jesus could have been the Messiah.

Kade April 15, 2008 at 3:40 PM  

But did he (Matthew) know that this man who was calling him was the Messiah?

-Kole

Elizabeth April 15, 2008 at 4:02 PM  

Ok, i dont have all the answers (obviously) and apparently this bit of imformation was not important as it is not included in any of the Gosples. Personaly I think he did.

Kade April 15, 2008 at 4:07 PM  

Sorry E.Go. if I sounded rude. I like your imput!:)

-kole

Elizabeth April 15, 2008 at 4:36 PM  

you didnt...well not to me anyway...I can hear you asking to the questions...but thanks for the a..ap...however you spell that...thanks for saying your sorry...lol...im glad and i enjoy your posts and challenges.

Kade April 15, 2008 at 9:47 PM  

Thanks everyone for the feedback!

-Kole

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